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Post by abstracter on Jan 3, 2009 22:18:05 GMT -5
I'm new and if I'm not supposed to be doing this then I apologize I'm more of a writer than an rp'er but i'm credited for coming up with interesting plots and ideas. So if anyone wants to take this idea up here it goes.
I find it to be pretty obvious that a lot of people here are going to play as nobodies or some past kingdom heart enemy. Well soley for the purpose of Rping how about we come up with another sort of enemy for you skilled Rpers to try.
I can't come up with details but I'd be happy if someone would take my idea and use it think of it more as a donation. I suggest we come up with a class of kingdom hearts enemy I decided to name Outcasts.
Explanation: We know what a Nobody is an empty vessel robbed of its heart. A Heartless is a creature made when a heart is consumed by darkness and leaves the body or is stolen by another Heartless and what not. Right but what would happen if one of these 'free roaming' hearts were to return to the wrong vessel?
I'd like to think that this'd be an interesting way for an Outcast to be born. A being created from what already belongs to someone else.
Well that was my suggestion of a new KH enemy for the purpose of roleplaying if anyone finds this acceptable. If anyone can expand on this idea and are confident they can make a good RP out of it I'll be glad to give you the idea. I might even join your RP but then again I might not. I'd just like to see if anyone would take this idea and make use of it. Anyway what do you think?
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Post by Iris|Kairi on Jan 3, 2009 23:52:13 GMT -5
It is kind of interesting. Would that mean Sora was sort of an "Outcast" when he had Kairi's heart?
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Post by abstracter on Jan 4, 2009 12:32:39 GMT -5
That would be a logical conclusion, but then again Sora wasn't an 'empty vessel' like that of a Nobody. The concept was that they're beings formed by one person's body or Nobody, someone else's soul (if the vessel doesn't already have a soul) and another person's heart. Sort of like the monster of Frankestein. Made completely from bits and pieces from other people. I guess the most common way for the birth would be if a Nobody was desperate enough for a heart so they take someone else's.
So if Sora had ever lost his heart while he had Kairi's he would've become one. But you have found my idea intersting so thank you. I still don't know what to do with it though? Any ideas to add on anyone?
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Post by donald2 on Jan 4, 2009 13:01:21 GMT -5
How would their abilities work? Would their hearts be left to make the abilities, or would they be stuck with the bodies natural ones?
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Post by abstracter on Jan 5, 2009 20:33:22 GMT -5
Hmm. I'm not quite sure. That's one of the reason's I posted this idea to see if anyone can expand on it. If anyone can come up with something to add.
Let's see I would think that the addition of a heart would have an effect, so I'm thinking three things. One the addition amplifies the power the body already has, two the being gets another power the one of the person who the heart belongs too, or they can completely change their power all together. But I don't really know I'm hoping someone can come up with something to add to it.
I did come up with a way to depict the Outcasts as enemies, we could have it so that they're looking for the perfect 'substitute' heart. They could find some people who they think has the perfect heart they desire. They could then do things to mess with them in order to 'ripen' them, make their hearts stronger before they finally take it as their own.
So they'll basically throw a heart away when they're no longer satisfied. However if that concept was in their then there would be problems about how their powers are affected. I still don't know what to do with their powers, but I'm hoping that the result will mean some creative abilities are bestowed. Afterall the way I see it when it comes to making a power is the more creative or the more unique the more powerful it is. As long as it can approved that is.
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Jan 5, 2009 22:33:44 GMT -5
Outcasts... Nobodies who have gained the wrong hearts and become improperly "whole" again. I kind of like it. In all my initial imaginings so far though its hard for me to differentiate them from Nobodies themselves(In state and motivation, not in powers and abilities). It will take some actual thought it seems. Haha.
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Post by Iris|Kairi on Jan 5, 2009 23:05:47 GMT -5
Outcasts would be an interesting twist on....
...MUAHAHA.
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Post by abstracter on Jan 6, 2009 20:34:19 GMT -5
Anything anyone want to contribute? Has anyone come up with something they could add to the idea? With the way it's going it would obviously becom a quest RP. Perhaps someone can come up with some power or ability that would 'identify' them as Outcasts?
Should we do an organization like thing as well? We could make it that Outcasts form groups we can call 'Factions' Since Outcasts have this desire to find a perfect substitute they feel that it'd be best to work together or something? They can share collected hearts with eachother. An Outcast should have the ability to remove their 'substitute' and take in a new one. Sort of like a fad. If an Outcast removes their substitute heart willingly they can revert to a Nobody.
I think if we want to make these guys interesting enemies, we should make it so that they're vanquished only when the heart they currently possess is released unwillingly. (Usually through a strike to the heart in the chest cavity)
I have another proposal as well (OMG when will the ideas end!? LOL!) If a heart is over used without rest for a period of time the heart could grow more 'tainted'. If the heart get's thrown away it could become a more powerful Heartless. The more tainted the more powerful.
But if any of the ideas don't sound as good or if you think we shouldn't use it we can toss it out and come up with something else.
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Post by blue on Jan 13, 2009 19:15:40 GMT -5
You know what the scariest part of this thread is? I created my character under similar thoughts! And then I stumbled upon this thread! So, don't freak out, I didn't take your idea, we just have freakishly similar brain waves, or somethin'. Girl Scout Cookie's honor.
Anyway, check Nue out (link in my sig). He was created from the memories and feelings left behind in Castle Oblivion after Sora and company and Organization 13 walked through. And, above all else, is a Villain. xD If Nue is anything like what you were thinkin' of, Abstracter, let me know and we can expand on it. =3
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Post by Iris|Kairi on Jan 14, 2009 0:17:41 GMT -5
I still think this whole Outcast dealie is a pretty interesting idea. XD
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Post by blue on Jan 14, 2009 0:26:30 GMT -5
I concur~! I hope we can get somewhere with it. 'Cause, it could turn out to be some epic awesesomesauce~!
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Post by yami on Jan 15, 2009 11:39:08 GMT -5
Sora agrees and kinda had something like this going, recall the old Sora plot? This would pretty much work out perfectly with some tweaks here and there as my Sora would have been considered an Imperfect Outcast, one who had half of someone else's heart and half his own. ^0^
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Post by angelous on Jan 15, 2009 16:56:54 GMT -5
I like this idea! I understand tweaks need to be done, but it is still good!
My site was originally going to have this sorta creature in the plot, but I decided to go with something I call the Forgotten (or the Lost, I haven't decided yet, I still need to get the boards and that made before I finish up the plot. XD)
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Post by abstracter on Feb 7, 2009 21:05:37 GMT -5
Sorry I've been away for awhile me and my family had moved to Arizona. I should've informed some people. I managed to back onto this site so now manybe we can further develop the idea. ( Warning Idea made for worlds that makes sense is about to be typed.)
Hey in the first game don't heartless sort of take the heart of worlds then the world dissapears? Isn't that what happens to the original person when they're heart is stolen by heartless that creates a nobody later on? Well I thought about this and think that if the same happens to a world...wouldn't there be a 'Nobody' version of it?
Anyway...Blue Feathers that is a lot like the Outcasts. A creature that can be fromed from different parts of people is what an Outcast basically is. We should expand on it anyone else who wants to help is more then welcome.
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Post by Shinn on Feb 8, 2009 17:45:17 GMT -5
Well technically The World That Never Was would fall under the category of a 'Nobody' of worlds.
Anyways I think this idea is very fantastic and I rarely say that about other peoples ideas for plots. I would very much like to use this idea for what I already got in the story plot, how about you and I continue talking over this so we can take this idea and make it into a reality?
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