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Post by Yuffie ! on Aug 21, 2009 0:03:47 GMT -5
Alrighty, so this is gonna be a bit of a rant, so for that, I apologize. And I realize that you guys just re-worked the canon list not that long ago, but there was just a couple things that were bugging me that I felt deserved to be pointed out.
While the amount of canons is just right, I feel that a few canons on the list have been labeled as 'major', when they certainly aren't. By any means. I'm going to be pointing these ones out below, but I just wanted to give you an idea of why I'm even making this thread.
Beginning with the Main Characters section. See, those characters deserve to be labeled as major characters, as that's what they are. They've directly affected the plot, and have pretty much driven the story along. I'd say that the Replica doesn't really deserve to be there, but that's not really that big of a deal.
The Organization is where I'm seeing the biggest trouble. Sure, characters such as Axel and Roxas, who have played such major roles in the story, deserve to be majors. After all, if it wasn't for them, the story wouldn't have gone the way it did. Xemnas deserves the major title as well, as do Marluxia, and, to an extent, Vexen and Larxene. Those four have all affected the story quite a bit, from Larxene assisting Marluxia to overthrow the Organization, to Vexen trying to screw with everyone's heads. But when you come to characters like Lexaeus, Zexion, Xigbar, Demyx, etc... they really aren't majors. Yes, I realize that the Organizaton canons are in demand. Or... were, I guess, considering that they're all taken. But really, those four, the most of the Organization, for that matter, really didn't do much to help the story. They appeared here and there, but the only time that they actually affected the plots were during their own personal battles.
Demyx is a perfect example of this. He appeared once in the Underworld, and then you kill him in Radiant Garden. That's it. Mind you, I'm only counting the events of KHII, as I have yet to play 358/2 Days, but surely, you see my point. Xigbar, too. He appeared that one time in the Land of Dragons, and then you kill him in TWTNW. Once again, he really didn't act as much more than a 'filler character', as awesome of a character as he was. I could continue on and list why the others don't deserve to be majors, but you see my point. While I understand that they were in demand, I personally don't believe that it's fair for them to be major characters, when they really aren't.
The Princesses of Heart... I'm iffy about them, but considering that they played major roles within their respective worlds anyway, it makes sense that they're majors.
The only other place that I'm really seeing a problem is Hollow Bastian. Out of all the canons there, the only ones that I think deserve to be majors are Pete, Maleficent, DiZ, Squall, and Yuffie. Sure, Cid and Aerith were around all in the games, but honestly, they didn't do much. I barely even remember Aerith talking much, and Cid even less. And on that note, would Cloud not be a major character? He played a much larger role than Cid or Aerith did in any of the games, did he not?
Well that's my point. The rest of the worlds make sense, as only the protagonists and antagonists are considered majors, which is accurate. I totally realize that this is probably pointless, as you guys won't be changing it just because I'm ranting. But I felt that I should at least say it. ^^.
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Post by III on Aug 22, 2009 10:21:57 GMT -5
xD
I think this falls under the heading of fridge logic. I don't see any flaws in your argument but I don't think it'll be changed either.
...unless there's a rule in particular in regards to major/minor characters? I dun remember. And five is plenty, really. >>
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Aug 24, 2009 23:00:37 GMT -5
Zexion is totally major-worthy. So is Riku Replica. If they were important to the plot of Chain of Memories, as those two are, then they qualify just as much as someone like Jack Skellington does, who's only major to one small world of a complete game.
I would personally think that there's more room for debate amongst the Disney heroes than the Organization(But not very much). Let's see... Lexaeus... possibly Xaldin and Xigbar... and Luxord. Those 4 I might say aren't major players. But it almost doesn't seem worth it to say that they aren't.
Like saying Jack Skellington(Or Sparrow), Tarzan, Peter Pan and Simba aren't. You could probably try to make a case for it(Can't guarantee it would win against a counter-argument though), but is it worth it? Does the forum at large gain from picking out the few?
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Post by Yuffie ! on Aug 24, 2009 23:24:05 GMT -5
No, I get what you're saying there.
I'll admit, I haven't actually played COM all the way through, so I only had what it says on KH Wiki to go off of. And from what it says there, I guess that some of them didn't seem to affect the plot as much as they actually did. So for that, I apologize.
And no, I guess it isn't worth it to pick out just a few. My major problem was just with the Organization. As I stated, rather than marking them all as majors, just because they're high in demand, why not just judge the applicants more harshly? With them, I think it's fair to pick out the few that don't deserve to be majors. But that's probably just me.
Anyway, thanks for reading my ramblings, I just felt that I might as well mention it. xD.
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