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Post by kempff on Oct 1, 2008 14:53:53 GMT -5
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Oct 2, 2008 0:00:09 GMT -5
And what exactly do you Americans have less than 48 hours to "do" about it? Form an impromptu protest? Write a letter to your representative?
Since they'll probably force North America into a Union w/o a vote this will probably end up affecting me too. -.-;
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Post by kempff on Oct 2, 2008 22:15:11 GMT -5
Yeah, Americans hit the most, but with global interdependence now, you will also get hit.
Look at like this....this bill stave off the next Great Depression a LITTLE bit longer. Otherwise if not passed, the market will correct itself and the people who put it in this mess won't be rewarded for taking the stupid risks they did in the first place. (The crap that got us here today began in the early 80's by the way.)
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Oct 2, 2008 23:30:46 GMT -5
You didn't answer my question of what you're actually able to do about it.
To put it more personally, what are you going to do Kempff?
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Post by kempff on Oct 2, 2008 23:41:56 GMT -5
American citizens should call their State Representatives, write to them, email them, tell others, spread this news, etc.
I'm emailing my Rep currently. I've also shown and told as many people as I can about this. That's what WE can do. It's what we should use the internet for besides porn.
(I was hoping you'd pick up on that from the video, he says that in it, no?)
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Post by darkfire on Oct 2, 2008 23:49:11 GMT -5
*sigh*
I don't even need this video to know how completely ridiculous this bill is. It started at 3 pages, then went to 100, and now it's at 450? They can NEVER pass a singular bill, can they? It's all completely ridiculous.
The system is retarded, and so are the great majority of the American people. I'm saddened.
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Post by kempff on Oct 3, 2008 0:18:44 GMT -5
One error in what you said. How are the people retarded when the social system they live in is responsible for who they become? We didn't magically know how to be human at birth, American society and American social systems taught us. We can't be expected to be different than such normally; thinking we're responsible for who we are is naive and ill thought out. It takes sacrifice and struggle to achieve and understand that people can be more than citizens, something current day conservative American has done everything to stamp out and stigmatize (after the 60's-70's, why wouldn't they do this?).
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Post by darkfire on Oct 3, 2008 0:44:33 GMT -5
The retardation, I find, is in the dependence on the mainstream media, rather than general mass sheep flock nature, as you seem to think I meant or something along those lines. I'm annoyed that people won't do their own research into topics as important as these. Like this election. They watch fox, and MSNBC and all of these other stations that have their "experts" telling you everything (or at least what they want you to hear). The internet is here for a reason, folks, and not just for porn.
You don't raise someone to only watch the news and avoid looking into things at all costs...unless you're like...puritan or something...
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Post by kempff on Oct 3, 2008 0:54:55 GMT -5
No I knew what you meant, it's hilarious people actually think the TV, Internet, Newspapers, etc. actually connect them to things (they're not your friends! they're devices of social control!). Research done by yourself is what we need to do...sure we might use those aforementioned things, but with some ounce of intelligence in viewing the material would be nice. DD I say, Due Diligence, in everything. If not...well then you get eight more of Bush I think.
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