Iris|Kairi
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Post by Iris|Kairi on Nov 1, 2008 20:36:17 GMT -5
Ok, I didn't want it to come to this, but I'm out of tactics. What I want is each member to give me a suggestion, a CONSTRUCTIVE one, of what they think would help FM/ FM's plot, or what they want to see happen, or any other good ideas you may have. Anything that you think would boost activity. For this plot to continue successfully, we need you, the members, to get out there and RP in personal plots as well as just plain RP with each other on your own, not just wait for plot events. Trust me, I have stuff planned, but I can't do it until there is RPing going on. In my attempt to boost activity, I think I'll host a contest concerning who can form the best personal plot and involve others in it, and execute it successfully. There will be an AWESOME prize! Now, I want to hear from you all. ~Iris Rules:1. One suggestion post per person.
2. No replying to other members' suggestions at this time. This also helps keeping the arguing, flaming, and debating down. That stuff will be counter productive here.
3. Be civil.
4. He CONSTRUCTIVE.
5. Be serious.
6. ONE POST PER PERSON! (since apparently this had to be added and emphasized) I don't plan on actually ANSWERING in this thread, mind you. So this isn't the best place to ask questions. PM me or start another thread for that.
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Post by kempff on Nov 1, 2008 20:46:49 GMT -5
Get rid of the site-wide Plot since it takes forever, tries to be the video game all in itself, and honestly is boring. The personal RP needs to come back with a vengeance.
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Post by neo on Nov 1, 2008 20:48:20 GMT -5
Maybe you can somehow incorprate other game franchrises that aren't square enix by having the antiforms tear another rip between the universes causing more people to coome in and more worlds to explore...
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Post by Shane {Naminé} on Nov 1, 2008 22:31:17 GMT -5
I like the first suggestion, about getting rid of the site wide plots.
I mean when you look at it, the only way such a plot can progress successfully and still be logical is by making members reply to plot threads. And by forcing members into replying, you're ultimately decreasing their will to reply to such a topic. Quite interesting really, because if you tell someone they need to reply to something, they won't really do it as fast as usual. Or if you're forcing them saying 'this plot depends on your post' it may either put them under pressure and them not want to reply without having a good post. Or it will simply put them on the spot light, and many people don't like that feeling any better.
By using a site wide plot, you're pretty much cornering yourself because you're saying 'for this plot to advance, several people need to be involved' and what happens then those people are not involved? You can't very well keep the plot going if everyone just gives up. It requires a group effort, and if only a few people are willing to participate in it you can't advance the plot.
Find a happy median. One that can be a free for all roleplay where members are not put under pressure of replying to a thread, and one where you can have a miniature plot if you choose to and it can/could be advanced with only a few people and not everyone involved.
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Post by Akito on Nov 2, 2008 8:18:39 GMT -5
I wouldn't say get rid of it. More like don't be so heavily reliant just simply that one thing. Can't you have meaningful posts AND a site wide plot?
Me thinks the downfall of the site plot might be its heavy battle orientation. Yeah, that gets a bit dull.
Oh, and you ought remove that one suggestion post per person crap. At this point, you need all the suggestions you can muster.
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Post by Violinist on Nov 2, 2008 15:27:52 GMT -5
As much as it pains me to admit, putting the site-wide plot at least on hold until we get FM back on its feet. Once we have guaranteed participants, we could bring it back if we want to.
I would also like to place on the table the possibility of the Short-profile/Optional-info profile system used on boards such as AMOS and AotP. It would drastically shorten the character submission process and allow members to get into the RP as quickly as possible without discarding the character system altogether. It might seem a bit crude, but for people such as I who agonize over certain parts of the bio, it would be a godsend.
I also think increasing the munny reward for posts might encourage a bit of activity, as well as new stuff in the shop. New systems and more innovation might also do the trick. If our "bright new dawn" is supposed to happen, the sun actually has to shine, doesn't it? We must, however, veer away from unneeded baubles and focus on the game, yes?
Final Mix cannot be allowed to stagnate or else the idea of it will become nothing.
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Post by Shinn on Nov 2, 2008 20:28:08 GMT -5
Alright I have way too many suggestions to just tone it down to one so I'm gonna let it all out. Now I've looked at this forum from another perspective instead of my own and I have to say if I was someone else who never knew of this place and just came on here out of the blue I would think this place sucks. There are too many restrictions for a creative mind and a few rule contradictions for a person to actually think it would be a good idea to join this place.
I think one problem that should be fixed is the idea that this place is an advanced rp forum. I've been here since the very beginning and I have yet to see any kind of advanced rping. Get rid of that self made name is one problem that needs to be fixed first. Presenting ourselves as if we are so much better than everyone else is one thing that needs to be changed in the forum. We need to more open armed to other people instead of just acting so closed on here. I think new members see this place and think it's pretty cool at first but then feel as though they won't make it here because people on here have this big expectations on here.
The shop and munny have yet to prove its worth in my opinion. With what can be bought and the prices for them, it's a complete waste of time and effort. I say just trash it since the only thing people would actually buy there is the Keyblades and ability slot. Revives and summons and even the abilities that can be bought are practically worthless since I don't see people really bent on trying to get that. In fact I would have to say that the shop idea in general is a complete waste. In the history of this forum only two or three people have ever obtained the ability to buy a Keyblade and they never got it. It's completely stupid in my opinion. I know that the Keyblade is a very special weapon and all but it's not worth getting if I have to go through a trial thats supposedly impossible to beat. And what makes it even lamer is the idea that the Keyblade will only be good for one character. So that means I have to collect another 3000 munny and buy another Keyblade for another character, and then have to save up some more to just be able to wield two. Nope waste of a persons time, waste of a persons munny. I can see if one swing instantly kills 10000 enemies but I can already tell that if someone were to buy one it wouldn't be anything special that they couldn't have gotten themselves. So I have to say that the whole currency thing we have going here should be tossed out since it isn't going anywhere. Even if this place were more active it still has no usefulness on here.
The rules for characters on here need to change. It's a very one sided deal since some things can pass but other things can't. I believe that original characters should not have to have their profiles accepted an should just rp since they can already rp with them without having to be accepted. I don't get that. I can rp with a character I just created and it hasn't even been accepted but I still need it to be accepted? And if it gets denied does that mean I can't rp with that character? I think the only thing that shows its usefulness is for battle purposes. Other than that characters having to be accepted in order for whatever reason is another unneeded idea that should be scrapped. I mean seriously me and Akuma have been rping with lots of characters that don't have profiles or anything. This just proves how useless the profile acceptances are. Just let people make their characters and end it with that.
The post count rule should probably be thrown out as well. I don't think the post minimum requirement is too much but it's not needed. Sometimes there are moments where a paragraph isn't really necessary and perhaps three or four sentences is about all you need.
Rp week should be taken out and people should be allowed to just rp like how you can if it were like rp week. I believe then activity would increase.
Quests are as far as I see, not as great as they appear to be. There is literally no use since they are very much just regular rps, the only difference is there is a prize involved other than that quests aren't anything special. Let people make up their own quests and stuff and just do away with staff made quests since they never get finished.
Death is unnecessary. Why do we have that rule? That right there is gonna ruin chances for people to join anything. The risk of death. I hate that rule because anytime there is an event or quest there is the high chance of someone dying in it. Especially if you have only one character and they die then what? Why should they have to say goodbye to a character they probably spent time trying to make it perfect in their eyes only to see it die right before their eyes. And then to say that you can only rp in the Underworld and hope that some staff member makes a quest so that you can revive a person. What the hell is this Dragonball or something? I gotta do all of this stuff so that I can rp with a character again? And why is the Underworld strictly reserved for dead characters? How the hell did Sora bypass that rule in the game? You guys took that rule too seriously, it's not the real Underworld from the ancient Greek mythology tales, it from a Disney movie for crying out loud. Get rid of that restriction as well. How are you gonna just let dead people in when there was a doorway into the underworld in Olympus Colosseum that very alive people have gone past it numerous times?
I've said this before many times before in other suggestion threads like this and I'll say it again. More staff participation. I mean, all these ideas for plots and events I have heard numerous times have never come into fruition. And the only thing I hear from staff is you are waiting for us, what the hell!?!? We're waiting on you guys first, once you put something up then we start things up. And even then when a thread is made along the way you guys just stop and go to another thing. Stick with one job before switching to something else and ignoring the ones who were first and are waiting for a respond from you. And yeah I'm blaming you guys because lately that's who's fault it is. The staff need to do stuff as well instead of relying on members for everything. Regular members are restricted as far as plot and event rps go. If this place weren't revolved around a plot then I wouldn't blame this on you guys but since you are the ones holding the cards you're pretty much what will keep this plot from going on. If you can't rp then don't get involved with the plot. I don't how to say this but if you can''t do the job let someone else do the job instead.
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Post by ophelia on Nov 2, 2008 21:18:11 GMT -5
Over all, I do think the Forum Wide Plot should be put hiatus and let members initiate their own hoopla (a ditto cubed or quadrupled by now). I also think Org. Thirteen (The Brat Pack), should like totally, get up and throw a little weight around, and little wrath or whatever. Instead of collecting dust on regular basis. And if we were going to have a Forum Wide Plot it should involve those garçon fou.
Also, if we were going to change the rule involving fatalities. It could be governed by time instead of staff activity and splinters of luck. Like, three weeks out of play for a character "doomed" for the UnderWorld.
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Post by upsilon on Nov 3, 2008 14:06:48 GMT -5
If munny rewards were increased for posting and the fatality system was removed like Xemnas said I'd be back in an instant. Also I do believe the site wide plot should be removed or put on hiatus at the least.
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Post by geenween on Nov 3, 2008 16:47:10 GMT -5
No, I don't think the forum plot should be removed, though maybe the hiatus until more activity is gathered is a good, for it would get wasted if the are only three members on, staff excluded. A thought, however: IMO, considered the wavering activity, the worst thing you could do was send a PM say 'the plot is ready, go look for it in three days'. I personally was pretty disturbed by it.
Back to the main topic: the formula to get more members IMO? Reward.
The site is demanding, let's face it. 200 words may be hard to get every time, especially if something you have to 'waste' a paragraph on 'useless' things to reach them because really, the reply could have made it just fine with 100 words. Items, abilities etc. are costy and it's needed a lot of time to make the munny to get them.
Thus, if you want to keep the standards, raise the rewards, or else lower the standars... or again, do both. Like someone already said, if people start considering RPing as a chore, they quit.
About the abilities, the system may need some re-working, since it's pretty suit to the personal vision of the mods, as an episode showed already.
And I wouldn't see badly a improvement of moderation: maybe a chance for a QM to start something randomly in topics? It could add some spice now and then.
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Iris|Kairi
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Post by Iris|Kairi on Nov 3, 2008 17:19:58 GMT -5
(The 200 word limit was removed, if you look >>)
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Post by Shinn on Nov 4, 2008 12:48:34 GMT -5
Well thats one answered, now we wait for the rest.
Now as for this contest you speak of, when does it start or can I just send you what I already have?
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Post by upsilon on Nov 4, 2008 15:09:34 GMT -5
Indeed, when does this contest start?
And I do believe prices should be lowered or munny gain should be increased.
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