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Post by kempff on Apr 7, 2009 23:43:33 GMT -5
As asked, I have revised my ability section to fit the new AP rules. Sephiroth Vitality Boost+ has been changed to God Skin+. Sephiroth began with 10 AP and through the purchases of Flight and God Skin+ slots gained 4 AP, totaling 14 AP. Flight through discussion with Iris, uses no AP.
AP: 0
Base Ability: [b]Descendant from Calamity (Dark Harbinger)[/b]
Sub Abilities:
[i]Sin Angel:[/i]
At any moment Sephiroth may choose to bring Masamune up in a guarding position, air or ground, and use this attack. The raising of Masamune at an angle is the only indication this attack is about occur. Whether on air or ground, Sephiroth shoots toward the target with great speed, already beginning the attack. Sin Angel is a series of seven rapid sword strikes, the first three carrying the brunt of the attack while the last four are much faster but significantly weaker. The first three strikes will give a great deal of damage, however they are a bit easier to block than the last four if Sin Angel is intercepted. The last four strikes will leave a moderate amount of damage and are nearly impossible to block if the entire attack goes on without being interrupted.
To minimize received damage the target must block the first three attacks with an ability of large power or above, in a defensive motion, otherwise the last four attacks will break through the offensive motion against Sephiroth (he's moving faster than them at that point, if not stopped the attack continues).
The only other way to stop Sin Angel is to predict the attack coming, if Sephiroth can never position himself adequately then Sin Angel will not be used (distance is required, minimum roughly the length of Masamune).
Strength: Weak (2 AP)
Uses: Once per post.
[i]Super Nova:[/i]
Sephiroth's free hand reaches up towards the sky and summons a black cloud cover, however if inside a building/cave/etc whatever is above Sephiroth will be encased in darkness. The actual attack is a series of ten high speed meteors (ten feet in diameter and incredibly hot) that explode on impact, the area of the explosion roughly 20 feet. Receiving damage from just one meteor can be devastating as the rest will quickly hone in.
During this attack Sephiroth will defend himself with Masamune while directing the meteors at his opponents.
Strength: Weak (2 AP)
Uses: Once per post.
[i]Shadow Flare:[/i]
Sephiroth's third most powerful ability, when used it bombards the target with massive amounts of dark and light energy (very damaging in other words), respectively, one after the other. The actual attack is visible by puffs of light and darkness in the air around the target, signals of the imminent explosion already taking place on and around them. The area of effect by Shadow Flare is on the target's body and two feet around them. One element coats their body and explodes, while the other explodes in the air around them. This attack is indicated only by a clenched fist from Sephiroth with similar light and darkness puffs appearing around his hand.
(Player must have a specific ability for dodging attacks to dodge this ability, as it is practically instantaneous. Even then they risk secondary element damage and half the total damage.) Elemental in a direct hit is divided evenly, while an indirect hit is only the outer element. Regardless, physical crushing damage still occurs in both areas.
Strength: Moderate (4 AP)
Uses: Once per post.
[i]Flight:[/i]
The only time when Sephiroth's wing is shown and used, is when Flight is activated. Sephiroth's wing is black and located on his right side. While in use Sephiroth can fly as he likes for as long as he likes. Movements Sephiroth makes with his wing are notably faster than when he is on the ground.
The wing cannot be destroyed, and if somehow removed it will grow back into place (due to Jenova's cells within Sephiroth, mixed with Mako energy).
Strength: N/A (No AP used)
Uses: The Wing can be called out and in at a whim. The Wing disappears while in battle and cannot be used until the battle is over or he is fleeing.
[i]God Skin+:[/i]
A legendary SOLDIER First Class, Sephiroth is not only offensively overwhelming, but possesses a defense that at first is not apparent. An attribute of Sephiroth's defense is not just his "vitality" or ability to endure, but his body and skin's impervious nature to a wide array of attacks. Through extreme Mako exposure and his own immeasurable strength from Darkness, Sephiroth's latent power at any time is what powers this "impervious-ness".
In particular, magical and blunt physical based attacks do not inflict any damage on Sephiroth unless two different Strong abilities are used at once on him. All other abilities in this category simply do not damage Sephiroth or affect his body whatsoever. An example would be Firaga/aja and Thundaga/aja used in tandem, the result would be moderate damage (two different physical blunt based damage abilities follow the same prerequisite). God Skin+ is always at full strength, magical and blunt physical based damage must fulfill the pre-requisite of being Strong and paired with another Strong ability. (Elemental damage is not what effects Sephiroth, fire/ice/electricity will not effect him, but instead pressure and force are what matters.)
As for bladed/cutting/sharp based physical damage, no damage is inflicted on Sephiroth unless a single Strong ability is used on him. All other abilities in this category simply do not break Sephiroth's skin or affect his body whatsoever. Damage inflicted on Sephiroth is moderate when a Strong ability meets the pre-requisite. God Skin+ is always at full strength, bladed/cutting/sharp based physical damage must fulfill the pre-requisite of being Strong in order to damage Sephiroth.
Status abilities are not affected by this ability.
Strength: Strong (6 AP)
Uses: Passive Ability
Does this look correct/satisfactory and can I add? Been a while since I talked about it, so take all the time needed.
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Post by Akito on Apr 8, 2009 0:59:21 GMT -5
I talked to you about the first two abilities.
Shadow Flare: In the game, Shadow Flare balls moved fairly slowly, didn't they? As they followed Sora? As it stands, a moderate ability of the calibur is too damaging and too accurate. Perhaps give opponents the option to destroy the orbs if they're quick as well?
Gold Skin+: I'll have to ponder this one. It's frightening. I don't think many player characters could discern the prerequisites to damaging him, let alone pull it off.
Whenever I read your profile/updates, I play the Sephiroth theme.
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Post by kempff on Apr 8, 2009 1:25:06 GMT -5
Quick response, I'm talking about the FFVII Shadow Flare. It was an explosion around the target, and particularly devastating.
As for God Skin+, I understand. We'll work off your reply.
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Post by Akito on Apr 8, 2009 19:45:16 GMT -5
With regards to Shadow Flare, I'm going to not let it be instantaneous and be that highly damaging. It's one or the other. In the youtube video of Shadow Flare I watched, it was not fast enough to be instantaneous anyway.
Here's what I recommend for you to keep the horrendous damage it does; the light and dark balls suspend themselves in mid-air above the intended target for one turn. After which, they can descend to wreak havoc. Add to this they can only be used every 6 turns. Also, enemies are able to reduce the damage they receive by lashing out and beating away the puffs before they reach (Only a supernaturally fast person could get a significant number, or maybe even all. Most would get a handful at most but that helps).
As for God Skin+, I don't think I can let it pass. The prerequisites are not Strong level, they're Sephiroth level (As Hero phrased it xD). Appropriate as it is, I want to maintain some even ground. Here's what I propose: I'll let you have an ability that gives Sephiroth his oh so formidable physical capabilities AND, for his 'God Skin', it'll be one that reduces the strength of ANY attack made on him by one notch. Meaning, a Strong Ability is reduced to the damage of a Moderate and a Moderate to a Weak. A weak has no effect on him whatsoever A weak will scratch Sephiroth. This also means physical attacks are reduced in force, a heavy attack becomes a medium, a medium a glancing blow and so forth. If this isn't to your liking, we'll talk more.
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Apr 8, 2009 19:54:38 GMT -5
Pardon the interruption. An ability can't nullify Weak abilities even with a notch-lowering Strong one. That would mean a constant complete nullification of any weak attack ability.
At the very least they'll need to do some minimal damage.
That's all. Proceed.
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Post by Akito on Apr 8, 2009 19:57:44 GMT -5
What he said. It'll scratch you.
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Post by kempff on Apr 8, 2009 21:40:00 GMT -5
Read up all of the posts, here's my take.
Shadow Flare Changes: Sephiroth activates the ability and the light and darkness spheres appear overhead, his fist clenches and the light and darkness puffs appear around the target (they linger in the air around whatever the target is, following them). There are eight spheres in all, eight puffs, all spheres are divisions of light and darkness; placement is random. During the first turn they cannot be attacked, the simply hover about the target. The following turn the spheres descend towards the target either controlled by Sephiroth or honing in on the puffs around the target. An opponent can strike the spheres in order to knock them away, however they will at most get 3. If they have an ability that gives them greater agility, they can hit away as many as 5. Only one agility ability can factor into here. Regardless, all spheres explode at the end of the opponent's second turn. This ability can be used every 6 turns.
God Skin+ Changes: Pretty much all attacks knocked down a category on hitting Sephiroth: Strong->Moderate, Moderate->Weak, Weak->Minimum. Minimum is half the damage of a Weak attack, hence a scratch. Appropriately as has been said, attack caliber is affected, powerful strong abilities are only strong, strong are comparable, etc. Magic is also affected in this, Firaga does only the effect of Fira in physical damage.
Does that all fit? Once this is all sorted out I'll edit it into my original post.
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Post by Akito on Apr 9, 2009 5:33:45 GMT -5
God Skin+ is acceptable.
Add to Shadow Flare that it can only move at a brisk walking pace when hovering above an opponent. Meaning an opponent can escape it if he/she is running (Though, Sephiroth could lock an enemy in close combat after casting that, so yeah). Also, in exchange for being able to follow an opponent, add two more turns cool down (8 turn cooldown).
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Post by kempff on Apr 9, 2009 17:04:45 GMT -5
I see what you did there.
And now I will raise you 300 munny for 2 AP to add to Shadow Flare. 6 AP making it Strong, half the cool-down and not able to run away from it? I'm not keen on "Sephiroth pushing the opponent towards them", it might be Sephiroth but people always find impossible ways to dodge when given an inch. I understand Super Nova working in the other way, but if a 6 AP Strong ability can technically be avoided altogether because it just putters out....why have it? =/ It's still an obvious downgrade from what it was before.
I'll edit in the AP amount to 16 whenever the ok is given.
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Apr 9, 2009 17:22:46 GMT -5
You're required to give an inch.
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Post by kempff on Apr 9, 2009 17:27:23 GMT -5
I misspoke, Bilbster also wants his character mod job back apparently. ;D
Even so, giving Shadow Flare 2 more AP should have some effect: smaller cool-down, more damage, etc. It'd be Strong after all.
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Apr 9, 2009 17:30:48 GMT -5
What can I say Kempff, your God Skin+ takes me back to the days of Priscilla and her crazy defence.
Which really just reinforces that I don't want it back. XD
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Post by kempff on Apr 9, 2009 17:39:08 GMT -5
Priscilla had reason for you to worry. I'm doing justice to the character here. And her ability is pretty rad my man. Sephiroth's, well looks pretty succinct to me.
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Post by Akito on Apr 9, 2009 18:07:16 GMT -5
I'll let you halve the cooldown to 4 turns and as long as you keep the brisk walking (There's little avoiding this, opponents can't be hopelessly tracked down and slaughtered), I'll let you change the area of effect to 3 metres around a person (6 feet?).
Alternatively, when upgrading to Strong, you can give it a different effect rather than powering up your original. Like, say something similar to the KH Sephiroth's...Shadow Flare? The balls that track you around.
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Post by kempff on Apr 9, 2009 23:26:19 GMT -5
This had been bugging me since the general idea of Shadow Flare was changed. Super Nova and Shadow Flare are now practically the same ability idea/concept, same mechanics, same cool-down even, etc and what not. Tell me if this new concept is "XYZ" wrong and not acceptable.
AP: 0
Base Ability: [b]Descendant from Calamity (Dark Harbinger)[/b]
Sub Abilities:
[i]Sin Angel:[/i]
At any moment Sephiroth may choose to bring Masamune up in a guarding position, air or ground, and use this attack. The raising of Masamune at an angle is the only indication this attack is about occur. Whether on air or ground, Sephiroth shoots toward the target with great speed, already beginning the attack. Sin Angel is a series of seven rapid sword strikes, the first three carrying the brunt of the attack while the last four are much faster but significantly weaker. The first three strikes will give a great deal of damage, however they are a bit easier to block than the last four if Sin Angel is intercepted. The last four strikes will leave a moderate amount of damage and are nearly impossible to block if the entire attack goes on without being interrupted.
To minimize received damage the target must block the first three attacks with an ability of Strong power or above, in a defensive motion, otherwise the last four attacks will break through the offensive motion against Sephiroth (he's moving faster than them at that point, if not stopped the attack continues).
The only other way to stop Sin Angel is to predict the attack coming, if Sephiroth can never position himself adequately then Sin Angel will not be used (distance is required, minimum roughly the length of Masamune).
Strength: Weak (2 AP)
Uses: Four post cool-down between use.
[i]Super Nova:[/i]
Sephiroth's free hand reaches up towards the sky and summons a black cloud cover, however if inside a building/cave/etc whatever is above Sephiroth will be encased in darkness. The actual attack is a series of ten high speed meteors (ten feet in diameter and incredibly hot) that explode on impact, the area of the explosion roughly 20 feet. Receiving damage from just one meteor can be devastating as the rest will quickly hone in.
During this attack Sephiroth is left unguarded after the turn he calls down the meteors. In the following turn he resumes motion.
Strength: Weak (2 AP)
Uses: Five post cool-down between uses.
[i]Shadow Flare:[/i]
With a clenched fist, normally his right, Sephiroth calls light and darkness to this hand. The resulting gathering of energy is enormous, such that it exerts a pull on light objects around it (pebbles, leafs, paper scraps, flaps of clothing, etc). This entire process takes one turn.
During the following turn Sephiroth shoots five orbs of light and darkness from his right hand, of which he guides to a location. At anytime these orbs can split into their equal light and darkness parts, totaling ten smaller orbs (the smaller orbs are of Moderate strength). The speed at which these orbs travel is roughly 85 mph.
Upon hitting an object the explosion is twenty five feet, thus the damage is highly compact. Anything caught within the explosion will suffer severe physical trauma (effectively physical damage), temporary nausea, and a crushing feeling from the pressure of the attack.
Strength: Strong (6 AP)
Uses: Four post cool-down between uses.
[i]Flight:[/i]
The only time when Sephiroth's wing is shown and used, is when Flight is activated. Sephiroth's wing is black and located on his right side. While in use Sephiroth can fly as he likes for as long as he likes. Movements Sephiroth makes with his wing are notably faster than when he is on the ground.
The wing cannot be destroyed, and if somehow removed it will grow back into place (due to Jenova's cells within Sephiroth, mixed with Mako energy).
Strength: N/A (No AP used)
Uses: The Wing can be called out and in at a whim. The Wing disappears while in battle and cannot be used until the battle is over or he is fleeing.
[i]God Skin+:[/i]
A legendary SOLDIER First Class, Sephiroth is not only offensively overwhelming, but possesses a defense that at first is not apparent. An attribute of Sephiroth's defense is not just his "vitality" or ability to endure, but his body and skin's nature to endure damage. Through extreme Mako exposure and his own immeasurable strength from Darkness, Sephiroth's latent power at any time is what powers this "durability".
Magical/Physical Blunt/Physical Sharp,Bladed,Edged,etc attacks are affected in this manner: Strong->Moderate, Moderate->Weak, Weak->Minimum. Minimum is half the damage of a Weak attack, hence a scratch (normal damage attacking works in the Minimum damage rule). Appropriately as has been said, attack caliber is affected, powerful strong abilities are only strong, strong are comparable, etc. Magic is also affected in this, Firaga does only the effect of Fira in physical damage (situated to all spells in this format).
Status abilities are not affected by this ability.
Strength: Strong (6 AP)
Uses: Passive Ability
Shadow Flare is now designed more along Kadaj's ability, though it's very much like Akito's suggestion. There's no mention of instantaneous nature and a stated speed is given. How's that all look?
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I did post in shades of grey if anyone even remembers that lmao