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Post by IX. Demyx on Aug 5, 2009 20:36:12 GMT -5
It was a horrible goddam movie. It was BAD.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!
As I said, it can be used as a torture device.
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Post by Heroic Bilby on Aug 5, 2009 22:09:34 GMT -5
FUN FACT:
In an early pitch, Nomura presented the image of the game's main weapon to the Disney reps.
It was a chainsaw.
It did not make it into the final game.
(By the way, I was kidding about Cloud)
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Post by stray on Aug 5, 2009 23:31:06 GMT -5
Excuse: The information was right and there is only dark and light. =/ This stuff comes right from King Mickey's findings. Do you think Mickey Mouse is a self-righteous killer with no compassion in his heart for those who follow evil's path? I, at least, think not. But he's still right there with a Keyblade, helping cut Nobodies down. It's not a matter of the information being right- it's a matter of thinking for yourself and making your own decisions. Even King Mickey can be wrong. Since Cloud has been brought up, there is a huge rant I would love to get off my shoulders about him. What in the world happened to the goofy, air-sick, simple soldier that was shown to us near the end of the game!? D: Why is Cloud constantly being shown as emo now? =/
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Post by kempff on Aug 6, 2009 1:37:02 GMT -5
Excuse: The information was right and there is only dark and light. =/ This stuff comes right from King Mickey's findings. Do you think Mickey Mouse is a self-righteous killer with no compassion in his heart for those who follow evil's path? I, at least, think not. But he's still right there with a Keyblade, helping cut Nobodies down. It's not a matter of the information being right- it's a matter of thinking for yourself and making your own decisions. Even King Mickey can be wrong. Since Cloud has been brought up, there is a huge rant I would love to get off my shoulders about him. What in the world happened to the goofy, air-sick, simple soldier that was shown to us near the end of the game!? D: Why is Cloud constantly being shown as emo now? =/ Wow, I didn't notice the first page's contents. Are people really thinking KH is a accurate basis on moral judgment? KH is such a biased form of people it's not worth defending. (thus why it's for kids) BECAUSE for some stupid reason Advent Children reverted him to having an inverted penis. Squenix sees that the emo weak guy crowd is good for money. Appeals to fans, etc. I sympathize, I really hope FFXIII gets a strong, worthwhile protagonist in any of its character, though hopefully Lightning. Even if they are doing the "there's no main character" approach.
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Post by stray on Aug 6, 2009 9:29:52 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't notice the first page's contents. Are people really thinking KH is a accurate basis on moral judgment? KH is such a biased form of people it's not worth defending. (thus why it's for kids) BECAUSE for some stupid reason Advent Children reverted him to having an inverted penis. Squenix sees that the emo weak guy crowd is good for money. Appeals to fans, etc. I sympathize, I really hope FFXIII gets a strong, worthwhile protagonist in any of its character, though hopefully Lightning. Even if they are doing the "there's no main character" approach. Yes, Kempff, I live my life according to the standards KH has set up for me. @.@ Or... in reality, I might like arguing cause it gives me something to do. =p From what I've played of FFXIII, I don't think Lightning or Snow are going to let us down. :3 I have hopes.
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Post by kempff on Aug 6, 2009 10:23:01 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't notice the first page's contents. Are people really thinking KH is a accurate basis on moral judgment? KH is such a biased form of people it's not worth defending. (thus why it's for kids) BECAUSE for some stupid reason Advent Children reverted him to having an inverted penis. Squenix sees that the emo weak guy crowd is good for money. Appeals to fans, etc. I sympathize, I really hope FFXIII gets a strong, worthwhile protagonist in any of its character, though hopefully Lightning. Even if they are doing the "there's no main character" approach. Yes, Kempff, I live my life according to the standards KH has set up for me. @.@ Or... in reality, I might like arguing just to do so cause it gives me something to do. =p From what I've played of FFXIII, I don't think Lightning or Snow are going to let us down. :3 I have hopes. Clarity means everything Larxs. ;] I'm not so convinced with Snow, but Lightning definitely looks to be more than the Cloud/Squall/FAILTidus/etc. archetype. Vann is one of the most useless male characters I've ever seen in any FF game.
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Post by stray on Aug 6, 2009 10:33:38 GMT -5
Clarity means everything Larxs. ;] I'm not so convinced with Snow, but Lightning definitely looks to be more than the Cloud/Squall/FAILTidus/etc. archetype. Vann is one of the most useless male characters I've ever seen in any FF game. Clarity is no fun! xD Funny, since her character design is based directly off of Cloud. Well, if you don't like Snow, there's always Sazh. xD I love that guy. I expect great things from him! Who is Vann?
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Post by kempff on Aug 6, 2009 11:49:23 GMT -5
Clarity means everything Larxs. ;] I'm not so convinced with Snow, but Lightning definitely looks to be more than the Cloud/Squall/FAILTidus/etc. archetype. Vann is one of the most useless male characters I've ever seen in any FF game. Clarity is no fun! xD Funny, since her character design is based directly off of Cloud. Well, if you don't like Snow, there's always Sazh. xD I love that guy. I expect great things from him! Who is Vann? I'm not seeing how character design impacts personality. Neither is it surprising with Nomura being the designer again, she would have resembled his normal cadre of characters otherwise. So how does her being the female Cloud in design matter? Remember, Nomura only draws the character the plot and writers agree upon in their descriptions; Nomura's role is vastly over-stated compared to the gigantic team that works on any of the games he's in. I mis-spelled as I always do with his name (how much I care for him.) I'm referring to Vaan.
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Post by stray on Aug 6, 2009 11:56:55 GMT -5
I'm not seeing how character design impacts personality. Neither is it surprising with Nomura being the designer again, she would have resembled his normal cadre of characters otherwise. So how does her being the female Cloud in design matter? Remember, Nomura only draws the character the plot and writers agree upon in their descriptions; Nomura's role is vastly over-stated compared to the gigantic team that works on any of the games he's in. I mis-spelled as I always do with his name (how much I care for him.) I'm referring to Vaan. Are you kidding!? Character design has everything to do with personality! D: Just like in real life! [/sarcasm] Actually, it was just a fun fact I wanted to bring up. That and a bit of an irony, seeing you were complaining about Cloud. But nevermind... >.> Oookaay... thanks for the info? (And for assuming I'm an idiot?) :/ Oh! Vaan! *realization of Vaan finally hits* Ugh... Vaan... =.=; Yeah, unless we start bashing Vaan, I think I'm done here. >.>
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Post by Member Formerly Known As Axel on Aug 6, 2009 12:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by kempff on Aug 6, 2009 22:24:41 GMT -5
I'm not seeing how character design impacts personality. Neither is it surprising with Nomura being the designer again, she would have resembled his normal cadre of characters otherwise. So how does her being the female Cloud in design matter? Remember, Nomura only draws the character the plot and writers agree upon in their descriptions; Nomura's role is vastly over-stated compared to the gigantic team that works on any of the games he's in. I mis-spelled as I always do with his name (how much I care for him.) I'm referring to Vaan. Are you kidding!? Character design has everything to do with personality! D: Just like in real life! [/sarcasm] Actually, it was just a fun fact I wanted to bring up. That and a bit of an irony, seeing you were complaining about Cloud. But nevermind... >.> Oookaay... thanks for the info? (And for assuming I'm an idiot?) :/ Oh! Vaan! *realization of Vaan finally hits* Ugh... Vaan... =.=; Yeah, unless we start bashing Vaan, I think I'm done here. >.> I'm merely being objective, it's got nothing to do with you. I'll relax it a bit with you though since it's becoming a problem. FFXII was an alright game, up until Ashe's back story is further explored, and then you really must question what's the role of this stupid kid? The game forces you to do this just because of his role, but it's not a good idea to isolate the player's feeling over the first character you meet after the controls are learned (Penelo is equally useless, but somehow I think better of her than him). The approach of focusing on all characters, I have to wonder, was it from director one or two? It's visible that that decision impedes with plot. It's unfortunate it makes Vaan and Penelo look like unfeeling blocks of pixels that evolved to move, walk, and talk. And Axel/Zero, as far as what you said with those very nice looking stills. That's conceptual art, yes? Concept art is just concept, sadly. So many good games that could have been, would have been.
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