The problem with Xion...(SPOILERS)

[Homac]

I have a small problem with the addition of Xion as a canon character. Now, I have nothing against her, but:

1) If Xion began to exist again, Roxas wouldn't be able to dual wield Keyblades.

2) At the end of 358/2 Days, Xion is absorbed into Roxas, and there is no memory of her. With anyone.

Two big problems right there, huh?

[stray]

No, not really. I mean, technically we're all supposed to be dead anyway. ^^;

She could always be brought back as an artificial life. Or as a clone Vexen made. I think if someone wants her, they'll find a way to bring her back.

[nothito]

Exactly. A good portion of the canon list is comprised of characters who have either died, been absorbed into someone, or otherwise disappeared. Addressing your concerns though...

1) I don't THINK it would affect Roxas's ability to command two keyblades if Xion was running around again. For the purposes of this board, I'd think Xion would just get another keyblade and Roxas would still have his two.

2) They may not remember her, but what difference does it make to her being a usable character? She just has no friends that remember her is all xD

[III]

Actually, it might be nice to have a blank slate. ^.^

Course, as the only people who've commented own dead characters, I suppose we're somewhat biased. xD

[prythian]

Well, it really wouldn't BE Xion. In all circumstances, she's pretty much 'gone'.

It might be possible to have an exact copy of Xion, but the copy wouldn't really be Xion, or have any of the stuff Xion would remember from her time in the Organization.

Another thing to consider is the connection Roxas and Xion had. Would the copy have the same connection? There's a lot of stuff to be considered here.

[III]

True.

Uh, someone slap a spoiler tag onto this thing. It's a bit early to be talking about Xion so nonchalantly.

[prythian]

Alright, it's stuck onto the title.

[stray]

I think in order to avoid confusion on the board, and to prevent multiple Xions/clones from running around, we'd have to assume that the character being rped would be the original one. Now, if the person in control of Xion wants to start clean or pick up from where it left off, in a sense, that is their choice.

[Night Sky]

I'm pretty sure whoever does get her will be able to come up with an interesting 'revival' story. Hopefully they won't say that Roxas didn't beat her and she faked her own death etc, etc.

[prythian]

In all honesty, I think it'd be rather difficult to bring her back no matter what. As Homac pointed out, this would affect Roxas's Dual Wield, and if it didn't... no Keyblade for Xion, which MIGHT work.

I think we need an admin's decision on this. *goes back to playing 358/2*

[Night Sky]

It is possible to create another Xion from the original. Remember she was created through Soras memories and besides Sora the only other person to have his memories as well as hers would most likely be Roxas. With Roxas being revived in whatever way he was, there could be an effect that re-creates Xion through the memories that Roxas has. I'd say that Roxas would still be able to duel wield since Xion pretty much gave him that ability, and it's possible to say that she was still able to receive the ability to use a Keyblade since she is still a replica of Sora.

[prythian]

The problem is, 358/2 specifically states that Xion, combined with Roxas, was STEALING Sora's memories. Not mere copies, and before she began doing so through Roxas, albeit inadvertently, she had no real 'identity'. She didn't even have a face until that happened. And yes, that's very clearly stated in the game.

Maybe we shouldn't make a decision on this until a few members have fully beaten 358/2, so we can know exactly where we stand. ^^;;

[stray]

I honestly don't plan on playing the game. I'll probably go read some wiki articles.

While I understand where you are coming from, Pry, if you were to remove any character that has been altered or killed through the series, we'd be lacking a lot of canons. Yes, it is nice to stay as close to the story as possible, but people come to rp boards for the canons. If not to play as one, then at least to interact with them.

I think Roxas is a good example of this. He is a fragment of Sora, and yet a playable canon on the board.

[prythian]

Well, I'mma gonna recap what I learned through beating the game.

Xion is technically a 'Replica Roxas/Sora'. She was designed to emulate the ability to use the Keyblade by stealing Sora's memories and through them, his power. The fact that she developed an identity from this was entirely accidental.

The more time she spent with Roxas, the more memories she took, because she was stealing them through Roxas. As it happens, she did gain the ability to use the Keyblade... but that connection meant they were essentially 'sharing' power. In fact, near the beginning of the game, they never show Roxas and Xion using the Keyblade at the same time, indicating that it wasn't possible at that point in time. This is even addressed, because Roxas falls asleep for a good period of time, and after he wakes up, she is unable to use the Keyblade. Roxas ends up lending her his and that ends up re-triggering it.

At some point, enough power was gained for them that allowed them both to use it at the same time. This is what gives Roxas the second Keyblade. When Xion died, the power was no longer shared and Roxas had the power to use two Keyblades at the same time.

Also, when she died, her 'identity', or the memories she had stolen, was taken in Roxas and/or Sora, and for some reason, everyone's memories of her began to fade. I suspect Namine's hand in this, for some doubtlessly necessary reason.

She was not 'erased from existence'. She wasn't even really 'absorbed' by Roxas, though in a sense she was, since her identity was.

I won't make any real comment on whether to allow her or not, since I don't care. But without her REAL death, Roxas and Sora would remain incomplete, Sora would NEVER have woken up, and Roxas would still be sharing power with her, and perhaps fully drained of it into nothing, which is what was happening at the end of the game.

[Night Sky]

To me she looks like a character that didn't really need to be made. With or without her the story could have gone through the same way, I think she was just made to excite the fans and make the story seem more mysterious and exciting. Still I don't see any trouble having her be a playable canon since we have a Roxas floating around that defies whatever logic you can come up with. Even if her existence during the game had some side effects on Roxas and Sora we could ignore those facts because the same thing can be said about Roxas and Sora and how having them separated means that those two are also incomplete.